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title: "Podcast: The Sustainability Conundrum > Behaviorally"
description: In this episode of Our Best Behavior, Damien Arrouas (VP) and Stephen Honovich (Consumer Insights Professional) join us to discuss the chapter, “The Sustainability Conundrum” in our complimentary e-book, “The Power of Packaging to Drive Shopper Growth”.
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# [Podcast: The Sustainability Conundrum > Behaviorally](https://www.behaviorally.com/blog/podcast-the-sustainability-conundrum)

 Written by [behaviorally](https://www.behaviorally.com/blog/author/behaviorally) | Mar 1, 2023 8:30:00 AM

In this episode of Our Best Behavior, Damien Arrouas (VP, Market Development, Behaviorally) and Stephen Honovich (Consumer Insights Professional) join us to discuss the chapter, “The Sustainability Conundrum” in our complimentary e-book, “[The Power of Packaging to Drive Shopper Growth](https://www.behaviorally.com/the-power-of-packaging/)” that compiles over 50 years of best practice learnings into an inspirational and practical guide on creating effective pack designs. This year, we launched a Revised Edition with a bonus chapter around packaging for eCommerce.

*The Our Best Behavior Podcast is hosted by [Matt Salem](https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewsalem/) (Senior Vice President, Customer Success).*

[Watch the Full Episode Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddBNP6fzQc)

 

[Our Best Behavior](https://soundcloud.com/our-best-behavior) · [Episode 28 – The Sustainability Conundrum](https://soundcloud.com/our-best-behavior/ep-28-the-sustainability-conundrum)

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